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Katfriend, your comment about the movie portrayal of Keats brings something to mind. An online poetry reader wrote me once and said: 'My hunch is that you say in your poetry what you do not give yourself permission to say in life.' It was something along that line. My first thought was about how it is I only express emotion in private, and then only when I've arrived at a measure of trust; a space I occupy less frequently the older I get.

And I wonder. How true you suppose this is of poets in general? It may be the one place where many of us give ourselves a certain permission, ne's pas?

Just musing.

And, Chrisfriend, I miss Paul Newman. I miss his sense of himself, and of things, and his sense of humanity. Remember the strong man's movie portrayal of the tortured homosexual in "Cat On A Hot Tin Roof?" When he died, a writer who lives in the same Connecticut town described seeing Newman with his wife, Joanne Woodward, in a movie theater. Fifty years of marriage and he reached for and held her hand.

Now I am preparing to miss Robert Redford. I am so tired of the lesser sort of strong men.

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Tere,

Ah, I think you are right about private emotion and writing. Yes, I think you said a true thing. In the movie, as in life, Keats and Braun didn't get to spend much alone time together. Mostly, there was an audience around. In their letters is where they got to be themselves, and the letters do play a pivotal role in the movie.

Yeah, Redford and Newman, hard not to think of one without thinking of the other. Hard, too, not to think about Newman without thinking about Woodward. One could do worse than to spend some time watching the movies those three have made.

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Over in his jobbing thread, Tere wrote the following:

"But mostly my business was in making a good drink and setting the right atmosphere for conversation. Think about it. Before the internet where in the American village could strangers occupying the same town, but never crossing paths, meet up, strike relaxed conversations, possibly strike a friendship, except in a bar?"

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His comment put me in mind of my original conception for this thread:

"To me the name Dew Drop Inn evokes a place were members can pour their favorite beverage, pull up a comfy chair and sit and chat a spell. About anything and everything, or about nothing in particular. Dew Drop Inn to shoot the breeze about the odds and ends of daily life and whatever else is on your mind or in your heart."

Tere's description of his years tending bar reminded me of "Cocktail," an old Tom Cruise movie I once saw portions of on TV. I didn't want to muck up Tere's jobbing thread with my idle Cocktail chatter, but a few of the "memorable quotes" from the movie seem apropos:

"Brian: Days get shorter and shorter, nights longer and longer, before you know it, you life is just one long night with a few comatose daylight hours."

"[Last Barman poem]
Brian: I am the last barman poet / I see America drinking the fabulous cocktails I make / Americans getting stinky on something I stir or shake / The sex on the beach / The schnapps made from peach / The velvet hammer / The Alabama slammer. / I make things with juice and froth / The pink squirrel / The three-toed sloth. / I make drinks so sweet and snazzy / The iced tea / The kamakazi / The orgasm / The death spasm / The Singapore sling / The dingaling. / America you've just been devoted to every flavor I got / But if you want to got loaded / Why don't you just order a shot? / Bar is open."

"Brian: I'm willing to start at the bottom.
Job Interviewer: You're aiming too high."

"Doug: Coughlin's law: never tell tales about a woman. No matter how far away she is, she'll always hear you."

"Doug: Couglin's diet: cocktails and dreams."

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So, Tere, I was wondering: Got any Terreson's laws?
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Chuckling here, Katfriend. I remember when the movie came out. Friends kept saying, "Man, you got to see it." Invariably I replied, "Why? I live it." Still haven't seen the movie. I guess I got a few Terreson laws of bartending.

~Remember you are the only sober man on the premises. The lady wanting to take you home will regret it in the morning and you will lose a customer.

~Always cheat the house a little in favor of your customer. If the house calls for an ounce and a quarter give an ounce and a half. In counting your shots remember that count one is lagniappe, don't count it.

~Remember you are a psychopomp, a leader of souls, a mediator. Engage your customers in conversation. Sublaw: keep your eye on the sullen drinker.

~Making mixed drinks is a show. Making layered drinks, especially shooters, more so. Make the show a ritual of alchemical sanctity.

~When your cocktail waitress complains about a customer's behavior, never, never question or doubt her. Politely visit the table. Engage. Make your presence felt. Almost always it is all it takes for getting the drunks from spinning out of control. The bartender has to be the reality check.

~Take the late night confessions. Then go home. Deprogram. Eat something. Go to bed thinking about what you want to do the next day.

~Last Terreson law. Keep in mind you are a pharmicist. Some of your customers are into self-medication.

Katfriend, you asked.

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Tere,

Have you seen the movie "10" ? Most people remember Bo Derek running along the beach in slow motion.

Dudley Moore spent a lot of time in a bar in that movie. Brian Denahey(sp?)played the bartender. Unlike "Cocktail," the movie wasn't about the bartender, but he held his own in those scenes--perfect against Moore's frenetic, drunken hilarity. Made a great impression on me.

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Chris, how did I miss your question? Maybe I saw the post on a work night when the brain was tired. My apologies.

No, I haven't seen the movie, and for the same reason I eschewed the Tom Cruise film. All in all the environment is a depressing one. Why, I am not sure. What at first seems glamorous and sexy gets real old night after night. I never understood how my step-father did it all of his working life, or until the day of his stroke. Of course, he didn't have the options I have had, what with an eighth grade education and having grown up in the slums of Louisville.

Let me put it this way. Do you remember that great old movie Little Big Man? Remembrer Faye Donaway's character? She is so enthralled with sex she leaves her preacher man and gets a job in a whore house. Years later Little Big Man, whom she had seduced as a boy, crosses paths with her. She confesses to being bored with sex when it comes to her night after night after night. Catch my drift?

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Tere,

Thanks for posting Terreson's
Seven Laws for Soulful Bartending.

Your comment about Dunaway's character in Little Big Man reminded me of Chana Bloch's poem "Tired Sex":

Tired Sex

We're trying to strike a match in a matchbook
that has lain all winter under the woodpile:
damp sulphur
on sodden cardboard.
I catch myself yawning. Through the window
I watch that sparrow the cat
keeps batting around.

Like turning the pages of a book the teacher assigned --

You ought to read it, she said.
It's great literature.

-- from Mrs. Dumpty, University of Wisconsin Press, 1998.

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Oh that poem. Too true, too true. Thanks for the introduction to Bloch, Kat. I'll try to find more of her.

Tere, the bartender in "10" was always reading a book behind the bar during the off times. Gave him a philosophical/thoughtful quality; especially since the actor is a big hunk of a guy. It was a great touch, that book.

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Hey Chris,

Just came across this article on "Bright Star" I thought you might be interested in:

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Another of Keats's works unmistakably written for Brawne is the poem "To Fanny," the last known poem written by Keats. In it, the poet addresses doubts and suspicions about Fanny—a turn at the end of Keats's life that Campion understandably leaves out of the film entirely.

"['To Fanny'] begins with a desperate challenge to the advice that [Keats] should avoid writing," explains Motion, "describing 'verse' as an illness which 'Physician Nature' must cure by bleeding."

Though Campion's film excludes any mention of Keat's suspicions, Motion explains how the handwritten manuscript of Keats's final poem offers "touching evidence" of the state the poet was in when he wrote it: "Initially large and wild, with several letters hastily unformed, Keats's handwriting eventually slackens and splays. He was obviously worn out. The fact that it was the last poem he wrote makes this all the more moving."

    
  

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Thanks Kat,

I will check out that link. Sad to think he died tormented by his suspicions--but who ever thought dying was tidier than living?

Happy Sunday,

Chris
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hi Kat,

I read the article you linked and found the poem, "To Fanny," heart breaking. Seems like he was referring to death when he wrote:

"Who now, with looks, eats up my feast?
What stare outfaces now my silver moon!" And these lines:

"But, prithee, do not turn
The current of your heart from me so soon:"

he must have known his life was ending and was panicked at the the thought of obliteration; he was such a young man. Or am I reading too much into it?

Thanks again,

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Well, there is also his most famous Fanny-inspired poem.

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Some info on the poem:

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Then there is what he famously said about her in a late letter: "...everything that reminds me of her goes through me like a spear."

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Hi Chris,

I saw in another thread that you mentioned Tim O'Brien's "The Things They Carried." I've never read it, but I have heard it is terrific. (My friend teaches it in some of his courses.) Anyhow, I saw this interview the other night with O'Brien on the NewsHour that I thought you might be interested in:

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Also, my local public radio station broadcasted this interview with O'Brien yesterday morning that I thought you might enjoy:

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thanks Kat,

I will check them out.

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Board buddies, I feel I should apologize for being such a shitty host as of late. Job is hard and the spill has got me distracted. I hope no one is feeling neglected. Not absent, just not all here. Thanks for keeping the lights on.

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Hi guys,

I apologize for being AWOL lately. I promise to return soon to participate again. Hope you are all well.

Best,
Kat
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hey Kat,

Looking forward to seeing you back around here.

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What Chris says. Love it when you tickle my brain. Understand when time comes to self-tickle your [sign in to see URL].

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I heard from Tere today that he has been unable to get online from his home computer since late Saturday night. He hopes to be back online sometime later this week.
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So I'm not the only one with a demon in my computer. Thanks Kat, I was getting worried.

Chris
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Good morning, Chris. Yeah, knowing how upset Tere has been about the oil spill, I was getting worried too. Tere said he has been using his time off-line productively to work on his Bottom City Blues collection.
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Back in the days of phone answering machines I would compose messages that tended to annoy my friends, make more enemies, and generally irritate the populace. One of my favorite compositions was a paraphrase of an old C&W song and sung to the machine:

Back in the saddle again / Back in the saddle again / Maybe we're home, just can't reach the phone / I'm back in the saddle again.

New modem and program successfully installed, and with no help from my friends. I do love dealing with Indian support tech. AT&T based in Atlanta, that's in Georgia, and late last Saturday night I'm chatting up a sweet sounding Indian woman living half-way around the world. At least one ocean closer and I might have asked her to take me home. New modem delivered in two working days free of charge. But I'm feeling slightly guilty. I think I pulled the wrong plug earlier on Saturday while replacing the speakers. The same day I purchased a new chair for my desk (the one I have is like 20 years old and in need of replacing), assembled it, discovered it was a piece of sh*t, threw it in the dumpster in disgust. Clearly Saturday was not a good day, a VC day (moon void of course) when no new project should be started.

I'm back. Man, I went through the Bottom City Blues collection as if it was under a microscope. At this stage in the revision process no one can be harder on my stuff, more surgically clinical, than I am. Every vowel, every foot, every meter, every rhythm, every enjambment must prove itself on my ear. And every poem must grow through its own roots or get morgued.

Now if I can just shake the Deepwater Horizon blues.

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Welcome back, Tere. Sounds like you've made fine use of your time away. Will you be posting the polished/perfected version? I hope so.

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Thanks, Chris. Sure, I can post the revised collection on the board. Maybe in Ateliers. My warning is that it is kind of long. 79 poems covering 81 MS pages. (7 years of poetry. Not very cost effective, huh?) My habit is to work from the hard copy. So I still need to update the file doc. But I'll see to it.

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Okay, Chris and anyone else interested. It is done. Bottom City Blues, the collection, is now posted in Ateliers. All 79 poems. For me every poem is now subject to the pass/fail test.

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I've been gone, but none of you has been forgotten. I've just been busy with off-line stuff. I recently found out a close friend of mine has mesothelioma and doesn't haave long to live. For months now, long before his diagnosis, his email signature has been: "Any day above ground is a good day." Another elderly friend of mine has been losing her memory at a heartbreaking rate. On a positive note, my grandmother turned 99 earlier this month and told me in a recent coversation that she has never been so happy.

The world at large has also been too much with me, so to balance things out I have been planting flowers, indoors and out, as well as cleaning and decluttering. Not very important in the grand scheme of things, but it gives me some comfort in the short term.

Tere,

When I recently read about Carvaggio's skeleton being identified, I thought of you:

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I forgot to mention that in addition to working and worrying, I've taken several day trips and went to a Greek festival as well as to the library's used book sale, where I got 9 books, most of them poetry-related, for $10. The one book that wasn't poetry-related was Sam Keen's To a Danciing God, which reminded me, Tere, of your old friend, LD. emoticon
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The likes of Caravaggio and L.D. rock.

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We all know how it is. A writer's greatest sin is the over-use of words. Well I got two over-used words describing LA heat of the last month and a half. Brutal and unforgiving. There is this one new beeyard especially that is busting the old bod. Was there yesterday for all of two and a half hours. Within twenty minutes clothing soaked down to the underwear. Sweat salt stinging the eyes. Glasses filmed. In the yard I was thinking to myself, man, you are one dumb Cracker. You volunteered for this gig. Had I not gone my boss would have been there twice as long alone. It is the yard I've described elsewhere, the one that did me in a couple of weeks ago. Couldn't let the man go it alone.

When the rain comes it cools the temps down. But as the thunderstorms are mostly coming out of the south southwest I know they are also churning up the Gulf, complicating the clean up. All in all I guess I'll take the heat.

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Hi guys,

I just got back from a trip to PA to visit family and am preparing to go on another, longer trip next week. This is all to say that I won't be posting on a regular basis for a little while longer but will check in when I can.

I hope you are all having a wonderful summer. See you in September, if not before.
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