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Musicians with and without duende.


Just for subjective fun really. No need for explanations, though explanations are fine.

I think Coltrane oozes with duende all through the 60s -- well, until 67, obviously.

I think Bob Dylan has never had much duende, though I absolutely love his best stuff.

I think the Beatles had little Duende, but Kevin Coyne had rather a lot.

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Good game. I'll play.

Yes about Coltrane. And the bassist Charles Mingus too, if maybe more so.

I agree with you about Bob Dylan too. Too much hatred in the poet's voice for my taste, especially against women.

Agreed also about the Beetles, except for maybe their Hamburg days and Lennon stretching his voice to the breaking point, which he could do on occassion.

Now who else would I call guilty of duende?

L. Cohen is a no brainer. Gill Scott Heron comes to mind, that progenitor of rap. So does Laura Nyro. Eric Clapton once or twice. Knopfler too. Sam Cooke when he was in a gospel mood. Cindy Lauper one big time, and with enough duende Miles Davis, as an old man, would cover a song of hers. I could carry the list forward.

I think I get your point. Duende is a capacity the artist has or does not have. And the test is pass/fail.

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For some reason the mention of Laura Nyro reminded me of Buffy St Marie doing 'Magic is Alive'. I would sort of say that was a song filled with duende, though as it's pretty much a song about duende, maybe that excludes it. It's there in the mix, though.

Obviously Jacques Brel was just a veritable earthquake of duende.

I don't think Bon Jovi had much.

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What a fun game, and fun is much needed right now. You know, right?, that Buffy got that line from a Cohen novel where he said something like 'magic is alive and God is afoot.' And how could I have forgotten about Jacques Brel, the Belgian who taught me about duende long, long before I knew the word. So here is one for you, Steveman and all.

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcMVYzfXS8k

Roy Orbison's last song written by Bono. Orbison died soon after. Talk about devotion to the Eternal Feminine.

What about Dobie Gray?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaPnOASOWIU

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Early Cat Stevens, first two albums. (Oy, I'm in for it now.)

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There's a lot of duende in folk music, which of course is no surprise. Folk song is where Lorca identified duende from, in his original essay on the topic.

Lorca: The Duende: Theory and Divertissement

So I'll give you early Cat Stevens is you give me Gordon Lightfoot.

JS Bach had duende. It shows up in most of his more contemplative pieces, sometimes just a single movement, sometimes a whole suite. The Second Cello Sonata is full of duende; so is the organ prelude "Wenn Wir in Hochsten Noten Zein." Here's an aria from the St. Matthew's Passion:

Bach: Erbarme Dich

A rocker who occasionally has the duende is Tom Petty. Despite the upbeat guitar riffs of "Free Falling," it's all through that song. It's also in a couple of Traveling Wilburys songs.

Coltrane definitely had it. So does one of those saxophonists/composer who came in his wake, and took that legacy forward: Jan Garbarek. If anything, some of Garbarek's work is darker and more shamanic than anything else comparable.

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MERCEDES SOSA!

sorry for shouting...I'm leaving now...

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I see that, as with everything else, we each have slightly different ideas about what duende is. I don't recognise some of the possibilities above as having this quality, and no doubt some of mine make no sense to others. That's cool then. I guess it would involve some sort of disaster if we all agreed exactly about what it was.

I'm nominating Nick Drake as my next candidate. I think he had so much of it that he died of it (for some reason I always link him with Tim Buckley, so Tim's in this one too):

River Man

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