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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1u4U0GSTf7g/S5tGUJn_q9I/AAAAAAAAAZU/izabI1YhitY/s1600-h/samp432237a7ae0d2e84.gif

too bad, the "insert image" button didn't work for me. So here's the link, anyway.

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hi Auto,

Seems like a piece whose visual impact is as crucial as the language. A description, a hostile response, "you call this art?" and a destructive act, "slash it," the slashing itself on display. So many things happening at once for the reader/viewer to take in.

Not sure what to make of it; my immediate response is heady/analytical as opposed to emotional/visceral.

Just wanted to register a first impression but I'll be back.

Chris
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a thought--the handwritten poem has the look of a first draft--could be the poet's self-loathing response to her/his own "art."

If I read it that way, it cracks me up. I am always ignoring those impulses, "you call this art?...slash it, slash it" in order to get through a first (second, third...) draft.

fwiw, probably way off the mark.

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Hi, Chris,

Thanks for having a look. It's made on software online - not really my handwriting, but I liked the effect. I was thinking about some of the contemporary art I've been looking at lately, but yeah, I sure do feel this way a lot when I'm writing poems!

Take care,

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Well Auto,

the anger certainly comes across, so from that point of view, it's very effective. But is it a poem?...I don't know?...at what point in the crossover, is poetry no longer poetry but a purely visual art? Perhaps this question can only be answered by art pundits in ten years time looking back.

take care,

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Auto,

Always pushing the envelope. Reminds me of Pollock more than of Renoir, if you know what I mean. Also reminds me of Derrida's "erasure."

You are to be congratulated for using the media (medium) as a tool, experimenting. I suppose the earliest poets were suspicious of paper or Papyrus.

The meaning, among many possible ones, might be the angst about art, or the quality of art. But it could be a lot of other things. Nice work. Zak
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So, is this what happens when poetry, when art, turns its own scalpel on itself? Perhaps. Thinking associatively I remember Bizarro world from the Superman comics. The alternate universe, as I recall, in which ugly is beautiful and beauty is ugly. Certainly it speaks to value. What I am trying to figure out, and as Ms P once taught me, what does it speak to motive?

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Hi, Zak, pastel, and Tere,

Ah, I don't know. I just don't know. I'd like it to be a blank canvas committing suicide before the artist can get her brush on it. Or a blank page, same result.

What would get all the fine arts together? A painted poem (each letter a work of visual art) texturing a wooden flute? There's always overlap in poetry with music. There should be with art; a poem shouldn't be misshapen, should have conscious shape...

At some point it should have self-determination. Maybe it doesn't want to exist, considers itself a failure...

Thanks for reading,

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Hi Auto,

I read this piece when you first posted it. I was taken by the color; the red ink on a white background seemed just right to me. The repetition of the words also worked to create a sense of frustration, violence and anger. Was this the poet's voice, a critic's or, as you suggest, the poem's? I wasn't sure, and I don' think it matters. One thing I do know is that the poem stuck with me, and so from that perspective, I think it is a success.

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Hi, K,

Not sure what the voice is. Probably the artist making a judgment. There must be a painting or poem under these words. It must be that the artist painted it over, then wrote these words on top and slashed the painting. It felt great not to talk about slashing it, but to actually slash it in a physical way. I did it with my mouse, haha! The inspiration is an artist named Fontana who slashed a lot of his canvases with a real knife.

I do get sick of my mealy words sometimes. Making series of words mean elegant beautiful things is no longer a goal for me. Too hard of work to read and translate in my mind. I'd rather look at words and have a feeling rush in.

Thank you very much for looking in and commenting, Katlin,

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There must be a painting or poem under these words. It must be that the artist painted it over, then wrote these words on top and slashed the painting.

Auto,

Oh, I get it: something like a palimpsest. I would be cool to be able to see some of the old words underneath the new words, with the old words kind of bleeding through.

I'd rather look at words and have a feeling rush in.

I think this piece works in this way. This visual image creates an immediate impact. Then, as a reader, I found myself reflecting on that impact/affect.

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Hi, Katlin, Great idea about the palimsest. I just have to get more techno first!

Take care,

auto
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