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Latest trajectory:

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=809&subtopic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=2&topic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=1

Perhaps a more effective view, a map of the spill dated today:

http://www.intellicast.com/National/GulfOilSpill.aspx

A link forwarded by my birding friend:

The link gives a brief idea of how a top kill works. I've read that it was successfully used in both Iraq and Kuwait on land. I guess following the Persian gulf War. So at least we know it can work, even if we don't know if the operation can be pulled off a mile below the Gulf's surface. But of interest also is the mention of an argument between rig managers and the company man, B.P.'s rep. It seems B.P. may have wanted to quicken protocol for closing down the well. But what I don't get is this: when I worked off-shore the tool pusher's word was law. He was indeed the ship's captain. While he was on duty, no one, not an oil company rep, not even the drilling company for which he worked could reverse his decisions.

Top kill will need two days to show results. In the meantime more marsh and marine life will die. Man! Who needs a hell in afterlife when it is all around us now?

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Recent trajectory:

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=809&subtopic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=2&topic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=1

Current view:

http://www.intellicast.com/National/GulfOilSpill.aspx

To my search engine I typed Oil Spill and LA marsh and pictures. Notice that other spills and spill consequences are imaged:

http://search.aol.com/aol/image?s_it=topsearchbox.imageDetails&imgsz=&q=Oil+spill+in+LA+marsh+and

Plus this:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html?camp=localsearch%3Aon%3Atwit%3Abigpic

Yahoo news today reported that a second underwater plume has been located. The first was measured at 10 miles in stretch and heading south southeast, presumably entering the Gulf loop current. Today's plume measures 23 miles and is heading north northeast or toward Mobile Bay.

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Here is a link to a blog Chrisfriend has alerted me to. It includes good information. Maybe it is time we as voters become informed about off-shore operational matters, the mechanics of it all, if we are to make informed decisions about off-shore drilling.

http://www.theoildrum.com/

Also, NPR reports that in Breton Sound oil recovery workers and volunteers are reporting some pretty bad symptoms. Nausea, headaches, light headedness. The sounbd has been cleared of volunteers. Noxious stuff oil and gas is.

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Yeah, this sickness experienced by the recovery workers reminds me of the aftermath of 9/11--workers not provided with adequate equipment or information re: the dangers--the toxicity of the environment.

Do you think the pipe's been plugged? I hope so.

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As of last report the plugging is a work in progress holding good so far. I am imagining the monster pumps pumping mud down and against counter-acting pressures of gas and oil pushing up.

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Trajectory:

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=809&subtopic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=2&topic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=1

Other view:

http://www.intellicast.com/National/GulfOilSpill.aspx

Now for this, a map of the Desoto Canyon in the northeast of the Gulf:

http://walrus.wr.usgs.gov/pacmaps/ds-index.html

And this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x249334

So the second underwater plume of gas and oil discovered on Thursday is approaching the Desoto Canyon, a nutrient rich area of the Gulf that feeds much of the Gulf's marine life. Yahoo reported today that the plume measures 22 miles in length, 6 miles in width, and over 3,000 feet in depth. There is speculation that so much oil is keeping submerged, rather than floating to the surface, because it is mixed in with the dispersent that has been pumped into the spill at considerable depth. The dispersent, brand named Corexit, is, as I've said earlier, highly toxic, causing infertility. The combination of the two, dispersent and oil/gas can suck oxygen out of the water.

Is this what it takes to make environmentalists out of us all? Probably not. I am not holding my breath.

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Latest trajectory:

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=809&subtopic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=2&topic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=1

Another view:

http://www.intellicast.com/National/GulfOilSpill.aspx

Live feed of the spill:

http://globalwarming.house.gov/spillcam

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A link a friend has supplied me. Death toll to date:

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/federal_environmental_official.html

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Recent trajectory:

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=809&subtopic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=2&topic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=1

The other view:

http://www.intellicast.com/National/GulfOilSpill.aspx

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Here is the reality:

http://www.marinergroup.com/oil-spill-history.htm

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Whale near spill site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idxniMZSFKI

Casualties:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2418567820100524

Mammals in the Gulf at risk:

http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/mjasny/marine_mammals_and_the_gulf_sp.html

Next plan to stop the spill:

http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article216214.ece

Close and personal from the air:

http://www.rsairphoto.com/gallery.php?gal=17

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Trajectory:

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=809&subtopic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=2&topic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=1

Other view:

http://www.intellicast.com/National/GulfOilSpill.aspx

Forwarded by my birding friend:

~Sorry for another depressing and long post, but I wanted to let you know what I observed during a brief trip to Grand Isle yesterday afternoon and this morning.

I went down yesterday with Jonathan Carpenter and his wife to check out what's happening with the coast and particularly the Clapper Rails. We started by checking out the Sand Dollar Marina area, where there were a number of oiled birds around. Several of the Laughing Gulls flying around had oil patches of varying size. There was an oiled Snowy Egret on the jetty to the north of the marina. An American Oystercatcher was also nearby but we were not able to detect any oil.

I was actually able to get a pass to gain access to the beach and Elmer's Island, which was no easy task. I would not recommend attempting to do this. For information on the process please contact me off list. We did a short survey of the main beach, which had small tarballs washing up and signs of the massive cleanup efforts recently done. We were pleased and surprised to not detect oil on a single bird. There were few birds around, with scattered small flocks of Sanderlings and Ruddy Turnstones and the typical terns, gulls, and Brown Pelicans. We had 8 Magnificent Frigatebirds and a flock of 21 Black Terns fly over. Unfortunately, a large and powerful storm drove us off the beach and ended our ability to do much in the way of surveying for the day.

We camped at Grand Isle State Park, which had a couple of oiled Laughing Gulls hanging around the parking area. There were very few birds on the beaches of the park as cleanup efforts were ongoing. I was fortunate to meet up with Drew Wheelan, who is doing a great job gathering and reporting information about birds from in and around the circus that is Grand Isle right now. His excellent blog can be found at: http://birding.typepad.com/gulf/

Drew and I left this morning for Elmer's Island, having been turned away the night before due to the effects of the storm. It was a difficult visit with many hoops to jump through, but we really wanted to see what happened to some rails that had territories in potentially affected marshes. We were escorted by a very nice Jefferson Parish Sheriff for the duration of our alloted visit. On our way out to the beach driving through the marsh we detected three birds. Yes, three birds. A lone Tricolored Heron feeding and two Snowy Egrets perched in a tree. I understand there are changing conditions and these birds are being subjected to heavy disturbance, but during heavy disturbance two weeks ago the place was still filled with birds.

We were escorted to the beach, which is basically destroyed. They have hauled all of the oiled sand away, so that in places the water is nearing marsh grass. The surf was lined with oil-soaked absorbant boom, which three Sanderlings were feeding around and hopping over. We only detected two oiled birds during a 25 minute survey, a flyover Laughing Gull and Sandwich Tern. Our survey was so short because they are limiting access time. I was relieved to find an unoiled Clapper Rail in it's mangrove territory that it had been in three weeks prior.

On our way back through the marsh the sheriff was kind enough to allow us to stop at a side road blocked with a yellow gate, where I knew of at least five Clapper Rail territories close to the road. The birds are now pulling off clutches, chicks are everywhere at the state park, which means 10 to 40 birds in this small area. I was in this same spot two weeks ago and there were rails everywhere, calling constantly amid the heavy disturbance of the National Guard. Birds in other marshes and the state park were typically very responsive to recordings for the past two days. I played recordings very briefly, enough to induce a vocal response but not enough to get the birds moving. I had a single response off in the distance. The rails in this small patch of recently oiled marsh are probably all dead or dying, and will never be counted among the casualties when this nightmare is over.~


Another forwarded description:

~Sorry, should have explained that. Apparently a lot of oil entered the marshes a week ago. When oil started hitting hard it was boomed with the incoming tide on the north side of the bridge across Caminada Pass. Apparently when the tide switched all of the oil was slingshot into the back bay of Elmer's before they had completed constructing the barriers. I've seen some pictures of mangroves and cordgrass patches at Elmer's that are inundated with oil. Most of the oil was sheen, but some heavy oil got in. I didn't see any oil in the marshes when we were there, but it was high tide and our ability to poke around was heavily restricted.~


A link to pictures of the Grand Isle area:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshowpics/5957243.cms

Aerial photos of oil in the marsh:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/28/gulf-oil-spill-photos-hor_n_594045.html#s94829

Close ups in the marsh:

http://www.examiner.com/ExaminerSlideshow.html?entryid=1297744&slide=1

Something just occurs to me. The letters posted above mention habitat disturbed by bulldozers and earth movers. Marshes under siege in a pincer movement is what comes to mind.


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There it is. In the Gulf Loop current. This is just what is visible.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/oil-spill-map.htm

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Okay. I am tying off this thread, at least provisionally. I started it on the last day of April, have seen to it daily as some sort of vigil. Today is the last day of May. What comes is predictable.

More and more marshlands, barrier islands, beach heads will become fouled with oil. The marshlands, because so porous they cannot be cleaned, will have to be left to die. The amount of submerged oil is astronomical, thanks in part because of the dispersents. The submerged crude will suddenly appear on beaches in LA, TX, MS, AL, FL. The spill has entered the Gulf's main current, the Gulf Loop current. Inexorably it will get carried in the Gulf Stream, what extends up the North American coast as far as Nova Scotia, then turns east to northern Europe. Along the way hundreds of thousands of species' individuals will die immediately. Their generations of individuals will be impacted for generations to come.

I've figured out what went wrong. It amounts to a series of bad decisions by management types, miscalculations by engineer types, poorly maintained equipment, and redundant fail safe measures that failed. None of which actually matters anymore. It really doesn't matter. The Gulf, soon the North Atlantic, is faced with the new normal.

I need to back off, step away. There is nothing I can do to change the new normal.

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Maybe I lied.

I learned something today that leaves me incredulous and makes me want to bead a string of invectives 5,000 feet long.

The drilling company that owns the Deepwater Horizon is Transocean. In 1979 the Gulf's worst spill, known as the Ixtoc spill, occurred off the coast of Mexico. It put 140 million gallons of crude into the Gulf, and the flow was not stopped for nine months, not until the relief well was dug and in place. The name of the rig that exploded, also because of a blow out, was Sedco135-F. The name of the drilling company was Sedco-Forex. The two names belong to the same company. After the '79 spill the company changed its name to Transocean.

There's more. The same methods for containment getting used now were used then. They all failed. Only the relief well stopped the spill. Same methods. All failed in '79 in 200 feet of water, not 5,000. They are being used again. This fits a certain definition of insanity.

I am incredulous. My growing suspicion is that they all know these methods cannot work and that they are simply buying time by showing efforts are being made.

A friend is sending me a video of a documentary on the topic. I will post it as soon as it comes. In the meantime:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transocean

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I don't have much to add to your posts, Tere.
Just want to acknowledge I've been following them and share many of your feelings.

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Not to worry, Chris. And thanks. I really do need to let it go. Trying.

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Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo

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Grand Isle, LA has been in the news. It is south of Barataria Bay. It is a place for resort homes, fishing camps, shrimpboat boat and commercial fishing docks. To the east of Grande Isle there is a pair of islands called the Grand Terre Islands, east and west. Both are uninhabited except that, at least pre-Katrina, the western island had an LA State marine biology station. Again pre-Katrina, I worked there in an isolated honey bee breeding station. I got to know the island pretty well. At least well enough to say that marsh mosquitoes are as big as stealth bombers and more accurate.

These photos are close up and personal. As indecent as death. They show the true nature of unrefined crude.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html

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Literally heart-breaking. The innocence, helplessness and suffering depicted in these photos is unbearable.

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Yes, Chris. It hits me in the stomach.

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A journalist taking on the spill in its entirety.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/37480022#37521025

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Image

End America's Addiction to Oil

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"Second Oil Well Now Leaking Into Gulf, While Oil Leaks Through Seabed Around BP's Well?"

The Alabama Press-Register reported Monday evening June 07, 2010 that there has been a second oil well leaking into the Gulf of Mexico about 12 miles offshore from Louisiana since April 30, only a week or so after BP's Deepwater Horizon rig exploded and sank April 20 causing a so far unending gusher of oil into the waters from the gulf seabed.

The second leak "visible from space in multiple images gathered by Skytruth.org, which monitors environmental problems using satellites" is from a well drilled by Ocean Saratoga, a drilling rig owned and operated under contract by Diamond Offshore for well owner Taylor Energy Co.


Also "blogger bmaz in a post at FireDogLake.com notes":

Oil and gas are leaking from the seabed surrounding the BP Macondo well in the Gulf of Mexico, Senator Bill Nelson of Florida told Andrea Mitchell today on MSNBC. Nelson, one of the most informed and diligent Congressmen on the BP gulf oil spill issue, has received reports of leaks in the well, located in the Mississippi Canyon sector. This is potentially huge and devastating news.

If Nelson is correct in that assertion, and he is smart enough to not make such assertions lightly, so I think they must be taken at face value, it means the well casing and well bore are compromised and the gig is up on containment pending a completely effective attempt to seal the well from the bottom via successful "relief wells". In fact, I have confirmed with Senator Nelson’s office that they are fully aware of the breaking news and significance of what the Senator said to Andrea Mitchell.

 
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/6/7/232831/5847

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Just to be clear. Katlin's oiled Gull is called a Laughing gull. She is a small girl.

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Laughing_Gull/id

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Tere,

A small, sweet girl. What a terrible irony her name is now.

Trying to make the link clickable:

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Laughing_Gull/id

Thanks for the info.
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Thanks, Kat.

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Another on location report via my birding friend. If this accurately reflects recovery efforts it strikes me as sorry.

~I attended one of BP's joint information events Tuesday evening (June
8) in Belle Chasse to ask questions concerning bird and wildlife
rescue, and I would like to relay some of the information I got. These
meetings are public. By way of introduction, I'm new to LABIRD, a
back-yard birder and a recently retired news reporter. What I hope to
do is spur some sort of action that results in rescuing more birds,
turtles, dolphins and anything else that can be rescued,
notwithstanding the maximum effort being made by so many doing this
work at this time.
My opinion is that, like the cleanup, it is urgent to have more people
and more resources put to the task and that BP should pay for them.
Regarding why there is only one bird rehabilitation site in Louisiana
and none at Grand Isle at the mouth of the Barataria estuary, I was
told by an individual introduced as the director of bird
rehabilitation, that plans are to relocate the bird rehab center in
Fort Jackson to the state wildlife and fisheries complex at Grand Isle
in a couple of days. Presently there is a "triage" site at Grand Isle,
and after the relocation, plans are to downgrade Fort Jackson to a
triage operation.
I was told there are discussions about eventually moving the rehab
operation out of the hurricane zone, possibly closer to Baton Rouge,
to avoid having to evacuate recovering birds in advance of a
hurricane. The director said moving birds in an evacuation would be
dangerously stressful to them. I failed to ask what would be the
impact of routinely moving "triaged" birds that distance, and how they
would be transported.
The director was pleased to tell me that they are getting two new
washing tables. I don't know how many tables there are now, but it
appears to me several more are needed. Many of us probably noted the
photograph of a pen with about 17 oiled pelicans waiting their turn to
be washed during the Saints' tour of the site Tuesday, which to me
suggests a serious shortage of resources.
The rehab director is a lady~

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For some reason this YouTube thing connects with me and the spill. Don't know why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v7kN9UXzlE

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Another report through my birding friend about Grand Isle. Are these people nuts, these contractors and National Guardsmen? Doing donuts in their big vehicles in nesting areas? First by sea, then by land.

~Hi Labirders,

I came down to Grand Isle today to record vocalizations of Clapper Rails and do some summer bird atlasing. Unfortunately the oil categories are not available for the atlas checklists on eBird, so I entered the checklist on the main page. Also, White Ibis had no oil information options, something that needs to be changed. X and I spent a little time at the Bridgeside Marina, where we observed a lot of badly oiled birds perched on the docks and flying around (data not included below). We waited until the heat died down a bit to start a two hour survey of the east end of Grand Isle. We began at the Sand Dollar, surveyed Exxon fields and then walked the beach for about an hour.

On the beach south of the Exxon Fields we came across a very frustrating scene. We found a substantial Least Tern colony. Unfortunately, there was ample evidence of contractors and/or National Guard driving 4-wheelers right through the middle of the colony. Additionally, there were tracks showing that they had been doing donuts in the middle of the colony, barely missing some nests. While we found no evidence because we didn't want to further disturb the colony, certainly some nests must have been destroyed. X took video and pictures documenting it. How is this possible? Why don't they fence off the colony? It would be good if somebody that has the authority to consult on minimizing the negative impacts of the cleanup could advise the contractors on how to avoid destroying Least Tern colonies.

As you can see from the list below, Snowy Egrets are getting hit particularly hard. Because we were atlasing we recorded every bird we saw, but it was hard to determine oiling on birds at a distance, especially pelicans. Oiled birds are only those that we detected, but we certainly missed oil on quite a few. There are now obviously oiled birds in most places across the island.

James

Location: East Grand Isle
Observation date: 6/12/10
Notes: Drew Wheelan and I started a survey at the Sand Dollar Motel on Grand Isle, drove to the Exxon fields, then surveyed the beach for an hour.
Number of species: 26

Brown Pelican 77 1 oiled
Magnificent Frigatebird 3
Great Egret 5 2 oiled
Snowy Egret 14 10 oiled, 1 very bad
Tricolored Heron 15
Reddish Egret 3
White Ibis 2 1 oiled
Osprey 1
Black-bellied Plover 1
Wilson's Plover 1
Semipalmated Plover 1
Killdeer 3
Black-necked Stilt 23 Lots of chicks with adults
Willet 12 One chick in Exxon Fields
Sanderling 2
Semipalmated Sandpiper 1
Laughing Gull 143 11 oiled, 1 clearly sick
Least Tern 44
Royal Tern 7
Black Skimmer 9
Common Nighthawk 2
Purple Martin 10
Northern Mockingbird 1
European Starling 20
Red-winged Blackbird 2
Brown-headed Cowbird 23~

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