Adventure https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/t995 Runboard| Adventure en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 07:09:09 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 07:09:09 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11918,from=rss#post11918https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11918,from=rss#post11918Hey Tere, I just realized I never thanked you for your comment. I thanked you in my head! But your comment was noted and appreciated. I tend to think Herman was a better friend to me than I was to him, but I know he wouldn't say that. Thanks for reminding me. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:29:08 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11857,from=rss#post11857https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11857,from=rss#post11857Hi Zak, Thanks for stopping by my tribute to Herman thread. Yes, I wrote that poem in response to one that libra wrote in her "call and response" thread. She started out one of her poems this way: "Such a psychotic mess Such a mood slave" and those lines were the spark for what I wrote. And, yes, the writing group Herman and I were members of is still active. In fact, we were members of two writing groups that are still active. Many of those members came to his memorial celebration last July and read pieces about what knowing Herman had meant to them. A collection of those writings was given to his wife after the gathering.   Herman was like a father figure to me, especially since I met him not long after both my father and stepfather had died within about 9 months of each other. Herman himself had just recently retired, so he had more free time for things like writing groups and spiritual meetings. For as long as I knew him, Herman attended a group that met twice a month to discuss A Course in Miracles. Many of the people from that group came to his memorial service as well and read pieces they had written for the occasion. As I mentioned upthread, Herman was a spiritual seeker, not a spiritual follower of any sort, but a spiritual seeker. He told me he looked into the Rosicrucians, for example, and Edgar Cayce. He even insisted on getting my astrological chart from the Cayce foundation. When I read it some of it was so on target, I asked him if he had sent them any information about my background and personality. He laughed and said, nope, just your name, city of birth and birthdate. I dug that chart out and reread it yesterday. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:40:04 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11839,from=rss#post11839https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11839,from=rss#post11839Katlin, Did you write that poem? It's actually quite good. I had problem with the last stanza, "but not today's ills" but with nothing else. For some reason I got far behind on this thread. That was a special relationship you had with that man. I'm sure it continues on a spiritual level. Is that poetry or writers' group still active? I think you alluded to it. Zaknondisclosed_email@example.com (Zakzzz5)Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:41:46 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11792,from=rss#post11792https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11792,from=rss#post11792Good poem or not, Katfriend, the love is what comes through. I mean your love as much as H.B.'s. Terenondisclosed_email@example.com (Terreson)Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:04:43 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11595,from=rss#post11595https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11595,from=rss#post11595Dear friends, thank you for your indulgence. I posted this poem here earlier, then took it down. Now I'm reposting it. It's not a good poem, but it is part of an ongoing conversation I've been having with Herman in my head. When I first posted the poem here, I wrote: "Thanks, Herman, wherever you are." Then I went back to an article I had been reading and picked up where I'd left off: "Then there is another possibility, more wonderful and awe-full than anything we can imagine. What if the wall were destroyed from the other side, by the energy of light itself, and by the beings that are in service to the light?" * It came to me then with an unexpected conviction: "Herman is with the light now." Belief is not really my strong suit, but I hold out hope he is. JD would disagree. He says, "When you're dead, you're dead." spirit talk (for HB, 1931-2011) what a neurotic mess such a mood slave old trances triggered old spells recast       familiar ancestral voices hard not to heed them difficult to ignore as a close companion’s snore can't befriend them or upend them gotta transcend them somehow wish to call my friend but he's gone now his words hover on: Be very kind to each other, and remember who loves you. thank you my friend but not today's ill isn't it time really time you knew what to do:   Be very kind to yourself, and remember to love you. * http://www.sevenpillarshouse.org/article/the_wall/nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:47:15 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11594,from=rss#post11594https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p11594,from=rss#post11594A few weeks ago I had lunch with an elderly friend, JD. JD was a close friend of Herman's, and we had all met years ago at a local writers group. Over our garden salads and decaf coffee, JD remarked, "I want to go out knowing who I am." I told him, "I think Herman did that. I called him the day before he died, and although I didn't speak to him, his wife said he was still conscious." JD said, "I called him two days before he died." "Did you talk to him?" "Yes, and I had no clue." "How did he sound?" "Like himself." nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:31:19 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p10235,from=rss#post10235https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p10235,from=rss#post10235Thanks, Chris. Yeah, everyone should have at least one Herman in his/her life. Tere, I think Herman continued to learn the trick of letting go right up until his death. He often said, "You can be right, or you can be happy." After arguing with someone, especially about religion or politics, he'd reach a point where he'd just drop the topic. He knew he wasn't going to change the other person's mind and they weren't going to change his, so he'd let them have the last word and walk away. When there was someone in his life he kept butting heads with, he'd say, "X is in my life for a reason. There must be some lesson I'm supposed to learn." And then he'd set out trying to find out what that lesson was. I discovered something about Herman as I listened to all the testimonials during his celebration of life gathering. As I said to his son Andrew afterwards, "Your father's special gift was that he made everyone feel special." Andrew agreed that was the case. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Thu, 06 Oct 2011 16:15:28 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p10202,from=rss#post10202https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p10202,from=rss#post10202Man, this works for me today especially. I learned Herman's trick maybe 30 years ago, both in the work place and in relationships. Just let go, disengage, is what I learned. Kat, you are a lucky person to have Herman in your life adventures. Terenondisclosed_email@example.com (Terreson)Sun, 02 Oct 2011 11:52:47 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p10180,from=rss#post10180https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p10180,from=rss#post10180Good thought, Kat. I'm sorry you're missing Herman but how could you not miss him? What a beautiful guy. Chrisnondisclosed_email@example.com (Christine98)Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:00:11 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p10178,from=rss#post10178https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p10178,from=rss#post10178I'm missing Herman today. Here is a quote his granddaughter found on his desk after his death; she read it at the celebration of life gathering his family had for him in July:   "Do everything with a mind that lets go. Do not expect any praise or reward. If you let go a little, you will have a little peace. If you let go a lot, you will have a lot of peace. If you let go completely, you will have complete peace and freedom--your struggles with the world will have come to an end." Achaan Chah nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:47:13 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8962,from=rss#post8962https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8962,from=rss#post8962I wrote this piece in April and posted it in my NaPoMo thread, but I want to include it here. Just want to say: Herman, I started reading those Montgomery books you gave me. I'll meet you there. Twenty Questions When the Hereafter is here, where will I be? What will I see? Will I be me? When the Hereafter is here, will there be a there? Will you, dearly beloveds, be somewhere, too? Oh fiddle-dee-dee! Can I think about this tomorrow? Will there be a tomorrow or only eternity forever&ever&ever? Will I be in hell, or just so full frontal with the truth it feels like hell? Or heaven? Will I get an answer to all of my questions without exception? What will I lose? What will I gain? What can I keep? * My friend Herman is dying. Yes, we are all dying, as they say, but he really is and knows it. On a recent visit, he gave me some books. “Funny story,” he said, “about these books. Many years ago, I was in a used bookstore, the kind that only sells paperbacks. You know, like that place we used to go to—?” “The Bookworm?” “That’s right, the Bookworm. And I was looking for a book by Ruth Montgomery, but I couldn’t find it. I was about to leave, and as I was walking down the aisle, all of a sudden a hardcover book fell down off the top shelf and landed at my feet. I picked it up, and it was a book by Ruth Montgomery. I looked up and saw a few more of her books up there. I thought, I guess these are meant for me, and I bought ‘em all.” I laughed. “Did that really happen?” “Yes, it really happened, and now I want you to have them.” “Are you sure? “Yes, I’m sure.” When I got home, I looked more closely at my gifts. Inside one of them, Herman had written: “To my dear friend and a fellow seeker on the path.” I noticed he had embossed them with the seal, “Library of HHB” and written in the date “June 1986.” I randomly opened the inscribed book and began reading: “We are the cocreators with God of what we find for ourselves here,” he insisted. “Ruth, we want you to wake the people up to the importance of this towering truth. They, with their thoughts, are not only creating the patterns of their future lives, but their own heaven or hell.” He, it turns out, was Arthur Ford, a friend of Montgomery’s in life and one of her spirit guides after his death. It seems Art “came back” to dictate some top priority information for her book. Yeah, I couldn’t believe it either, but there you have it. * When the Hereafter is here, will I finally learn the art of letting go? Of love? And forgiveness? Think twice, I say to myself. Think carefully. “I’ll meet you there.” Rumi “Beyond the horizon, across the divide ‘Round about midnight, we’ll be on the same side.” Dylan nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:08:11 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8960,from=rss#post8960https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8960,from=rss#post8960Chris and Tere, Thank you both for your kind thoughts. The fact that you both feel the loss of someone you never met is a testament to the power of words, don't you think? nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:31:18 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8945,from=rss#post8945https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8945,from=rss#post8945Funny how you can suddenly miss someone you didn't get to know. Heart felt thoughts to you and all of Herman's people. Terenondisclosed_email@example.com (Terreson)Sat, 04 Jun 2011 13:41:58 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8936,from=rss#post8936https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8936,from=rss#post8936Kat, This is too sad. It doesn't help much to have known in advance. I'm very sorry for your loss and ours. Chrisnondisclosed_email@example.com (Christine98)Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:03:56 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8935,from=rss#post8935https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8935,from=rss#post8935Here is the email I received today from Herman's son: Hello All,   It is with a great sadness that I inform you of Herman's passing this morning (June 3th, 2011) due to his complications from mesothelioma. My father wanted me to let you all know via an email and I have honored that request. The entire family thanks all his friends and relatives for spending time with him, either in person, on the phone or by email. As you all know he loved being around people and you've made his remaining days a little more tolerable by distracting him from his illness and we truly appreciate everyone's willingness and effort.   Much Peace & Love,   RIP, my friend, RIP.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Fri, 03 Jun 2011 21:50:12 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8914,from=rss#post8914https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8914,from=rss#post8914Understood. Terenondisclosed_email@example.com (Terreson)Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:38:26 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8912,from=rss#post8912https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8912,from=rss#post8912Hi Chris, Those were my sentiments too. I called Herman this morning and spoke to his wife. She said he has taken a turn for the worse and that it is just a matter of time. She asked if I had gotten his email and what I thought of it. I said, "It was beautiful. Please tell him that and give him my love." She said, "Don't cry. I'll keep in touch."nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Wed, 01 Jun 2011 09:26:37 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8911,from=rss#post8911https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8911,from=rss#post8911Kat, I was afraid to read this. Beautiful thoughts and fair warning. Chrisnondisclosed_email@example.com (Christine98)Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:56:01 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8910,from=rss#post8910https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8910,from=rss#post8910I received this email yesterday from Herman's son, Andrew: Greetings All,   My father has asked me to send the attached file as he wants to share it with you. Here is the attachment: CRY Cry for me a little but not too often Think of me sometimes but not a lot Life is for the living In the spring when soft breezes rustle through the new leaves when the raindrops hit your windshield On checkout lane in the supermarket I'll be with you wherever you want me to be wishing you love and peace Dear friends and family My days on the net from now on are limited so I want you all to know how much you mean to me and thank you having been such an important part of my life. I have taken an old American Indian piece and modified it. Love you Herman nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:45:54 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8476,from=rss#post8476https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8476,from=rss#post8476I wrote a poem based on something Herman said to me last week and wanted to include it in this thread. Tennessee Waltz       (for HB) “It’s taking too long to suit me,” he says as Death sits, an old maid at the dance whose favor he must curry at last with a nod and an outstretched hand. He preferred a foxtrot or polka, not a Tennessee waltz of surrender when Dame Fortune struck up the band. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Tue, 05 Apr 2011 08:30:03 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8310,from=rss#post8310https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8310,from=rss#post8310Good one. Note to self: forego the living will and stay with the willing live. Terenondisclosed_email@example.com (Terreson)Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:20:10 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8304,from=rss#post8304https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8304,from=rss#post8304Thanks, Tere, I know and I will. Here is a joke Herman sent me via email today: Something we should all consider as we age... My Living Will Last night, my kids and I were sitting in the living room, and I said to them, "I never want to live in a vegetative state, dependent on some machine and fluids from a bottle. If that ever happens, pull the plug. They got up, unplugged the computer and threw out my wine!! The little bastards.     nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:22:43 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8303,from=rss#post8303https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8303,from=rss#post8303Katfriend, you are very lucky. Please remember that when it is most time you need to. Terenondisclosed_email@example.com (Terreson)Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:42:05 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8302,from=rss#post8302https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8302,from=rss#post8302Hi Chris, For seventeen years Herman did a weekly Sunday German Hour at a local radio station. With the help of one of his sons, he did his last show a few weeks ago. Herman signed off every show by saying, "Be very kind to each other, and remember who loves you." That's the motto he tried to live by and is the main reason, I believe, he has so many friends today. Hi Zak, Thank you for concern for Minne, who, btw, is very friendly. One thing I neglected to mention is that Herman has been married for over 50 years, so his wife, Trudy, will be caring for Minnie. Herman is very glad they will have each other for company and comfort when he is gone. Letting go, yes, I think you are right that is key. I told a friend recently that I'm not good at letting go, but I'm going to have to learn how to be. If anyone is interested, here is a link to Herman's book, Helmut - One Boy's War: Growing Up Under Hitler: http://www.amazon.com/Helmut-Boys-Growing-Under-Hitler/dp/1449998577 He self-published it last fall and gave a reading and book signing last November. About 110 people showed up, and he has sold/given away around 250 copies. He wrote the book for his grandchildren, some of whom have yet to be born, and it was one of the projects he wanted to complete before he died. He has told me that if it wasn't for me, he never would have finished it, and although it is not a book many will read, I am happy to have played a part in helping Herman fulfill one of his dreams in this lifetime. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:27:12 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8296,from=rss#post8296https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8296,from=rss#post8296Katlin, This is a good piece. I'm glad you posted it. We're all going to have to make that journey, like your friend Herman. I found myself wondering if he had made arrangements for Minnie's care. I hope so. We've got two dogs now, one who had lost his mother, an the other one who had a very bad home life. Now, there's another beautiful white Husky that is going to loose her home. We're at our limit, and yet, there are other pets out there. I hope he's got a home for Minnie. Worrying about Minnie because Herman seems to me to have figured it out, the big secret. He's reconciled himself to letting it go. This was a very good piece. Thanks for posting it. Zaknondisclosed_email@example.com (Zakzzz5)Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:37:17 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8295,from=rss#post8295https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8295,from=rss#post8295Thank you for posting this Kat, for introducing me to this human treasure. All of our loss, huh? Chris nondisclosed_email@example.com (Christine98)Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:36:51 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8294,from=rss#post8294https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p8294,from=rss#post8294I had lunch with Herman yesterday. When I spoke to him earlier in the week, he advised me to come sooner rather than later. He is down to 100 pounds and can only walk a few steps before needing to sit down and rest. Although his body is failing, his spirit is still strong and young at heart. He gave me several books and CDs, then promised to visit me in a dream after he's gone to let me know he's okay on the other side. In response to something I said about love, he read me a few quotes from Emmanuel's Book: A Manual for Living Comfortably in the Cosmos. A friend gave him the copy, which he is reading in between vistis and phone calls from family and friends, watching "Bones" and "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" on Roku, napping with Minnie, his dachusund, and welcoming birds to the feeders outside the kitchen window. And truth can live beyond its age... beyond its time and space. Limitless possibility exists in exactly every moment of creation. Wherever the voice of Love calls you, follow it. However Truth knocks upon your door, open to it.   "Eternity in an hour" and 'spirit' on the Internet. These two concepts are not so far apart.  -Emmanuel http://www.emmanuelandfriends.org/archives.html nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:06:52 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p6579,from=rss#post6579https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p6579,from=rss#post6579Feeling a little speechless. These are not the thoughts of an old man. These are the peregrinations of a beautiful child. I am envious. Wish I could speak with as much childish authority. Terenondisclosed_email@example.com (Terreson)Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:09:07 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p6563,from=rss#post6563https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p6563,from=rss#post6563Chris, Thanks for your interest. Yes, I hope to post excerpts from Herman's memoir once he publishes his book, hopefully sometime this summer. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Katlin)Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:43:42 +0000 Re: Adventurehttps://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p6553,from=rss#post6553https://bdelectablemnts.runboard.com/p6553,from=rss#post6553Thanks for posting this, Kat. I'm hoping more of Herman's writing will show up here from time to time. Chrisnondisclosed_email@example.com (Christine98)Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:44:17 +0000