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Here's a thought:

If a comment appears, the thread is not dead. By definition. By definition, any activity means a thread is NOT dead.

Perhaps receiving a late comment, after no one seemed to have noticed that the original poem had been removed some days before, perhaps the poet might have been going to re-post the poem, since the thread had been brought back to life. Not being given a chance to re-post the poem at the top of the thread—which had been withdrawn because nobody was commenting on it, but then someone commented on it, and a really GOOD and useful comment—removes any possibility of bringing either thread or poem back to life.

Sometimes it's a matter of being too quick on the trigger. Frankly, when a poem languishes for a long time, and people are slow on the trigger to comment, then really quick on the trigger to delete the thread practically the *moment* the thread comes back to life, sends a really REALLY mixed message. The point is, the board did NOT act "all in the same fashion," there were delays on taking some actions, and immediate action at other times. Frankly, I don't care what the rationale is for that—it doesn't matter. The point is, it looks really, really, inconsistent.

My issue is how all this feels really inconsistent, and therefore a little inconsiderate. So I am feeling a great deal of consternation, personally. And not particularly welcome, supported, OR liked.

Anyone can say anything they want to. They might even be right.

But actions DO speak louder than words.

So maybe people ought to be ASKED what they want to happen before the triggers are pulled.

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Dragon the principle is simple. If a poster deletes her initial post the thread is dead by virtue of the fact she has edited out content. Hers is the responsibility of keeping the thread active, not the board's.

As for the charge that the board has been inconsistent in the case, show it and I will own it, but not until then.

Terreson

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Dragon59 wrote:

Here's a thought:

If a comment appears, the thread is not dead. By definition. By definition, any activity means a thread is NOT dead.

Perhaps receiving a late comment, after no one seemed to have noticed that the original poem had been removed some days before, perhaps the poet might have been going to re-post the poem, since the thread had been brought back to life. Not being given a chance to re-post the poem at the top of the thread—which had been withdrawn because nobody was commenting on it, but then someone commented on it, and a really GOOD and useful comment—removes any possibility of bringing either thread or poem back to life.

Sometimes it's a matter of being too quick on the trigger. Frankly, when a poem languishes for a long time, and people are slow on the trigger to comment, then really quick on the trigger to delete the thread practically the *moment* the thread comes back to life, sends a really REALLY mixed message. The point is, the board did NOT act "all in the same fashion," there were delays on taking some actions, and immediate action at other times. Frankly, I don't care what the rationale is for that—it doesn't matter. The point is, it looks really, really, inconsistent.

My issue is how all this feels really inconsistent, and therefore a little inconsiderate. So I am feeling a great deal of consternation, personally. And not particularly welcome, supported, OR liked.

Anyone can say anything they want to. They might even be right.

But actions DO speak louder than words.

So maybe people ought to be ASKED what they want to happen before the triggers are pulled.



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I'm having flashbacks here, I surely am.

Merely restating the rules does not address my question of how the rules have been inconsistently applied. And didn't we once talk about there not being rules here on this board, just guidelines? And now you're quoting me the rules, rather than addressing my question?

Like I said, having flashbacks.

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Tere, you have deleted posts now, something you claimed all over the boards to abhor...and now you are trying to tell us that it is because they have been on the board with no comments for a long time...and that it is a practical, necessary board housekeeping thing to do.

Could you explain to us all why you have not deleted others' poems that have been there for months without comment? On July 5, 2009, for example, you posted a poem of your own that only got one comment. Yet it is still there. Why did you choose to delete Dragon's thread when we were still reading, thinking, commenting on it because Zak saved it?

Seems to me that if it was only for "housekeeping" purposes, you would have begun with the oldest posts still hanging around with no recent comments.

Most really good moderators do need to prune a board, we all understand that....on Erato, for example, there is always a week's notice given before doing so, so poets can save any comments they received...it is not a punishing move like this appears to be, it is a necessary board function and all who post there understand. It is not done selectively by the Moderator.

I admit I deleted art recently because I sold it...I do not think anyone who buys what I do should have people able to Google it and print out copies of it...I should have stated the reason I removed it. It didn't occur to me to give a reason because there had been no comments on it. I apologize for that.

On Monday, July 14, 2008, though I doubt he remembers it, I wrote the following to Steve:

And why was I banned at TCP.org, Steve? It may have occurred before your time, I realize that. I, as you know now, can only go to TCP.org, post there because my new ISP and screen name slipped through the screening process. All who know me know that I generally give positive critique, write "pretty" love or nature poems, poems that often are not good poems but poems few would find offensive...unless, of course, I slip over the edge into pagan imagery which it appears some in charge do not care for at all.

I complained about censorship on behalf of a fellow poet/ friend that I admire, got threatening PM's and e-mails from mods and then "poof" I was gone, too, for defending freedom of speech...or perhaps it was guilt by association...a group dumping of the dissenters. I am not sure which one it was...or which one is worse for that matter. Neither are acceptable to me.

My whole life does not evolve around poetry like it does for some and I didn't want to waste my time on it, be with people who found it acceptable so I left quietly and thought no more about it until I heard, obviously incorrectly, that the board had split and TCP.org had changed for the better.

Before retiring, I spent my life working in the human/civil rights field and, believe me, no poetry board moderator or administrator/owner will ever shut me up on that topic. I will always defend freedom of speech and the few other rights we still have left.

If we don’t use them, we lose them, pals...

Pat


The friend/poet I was speaking of was you, Tere. And I still stand by every word I said.

My intent is not be unkind or disruptive on your board, Tere, or even to hang around and bother you much longer...but to, damn well, let you know, that after agreeing, hanging in with you for so many years now, how deflated, disappointed I am to see the very same behavior you claimed to abhor coming from you.

Pat


PS

By the way, if you are concerned about your Beeyard Stories remaining private, you should take time to Google how easy it is to find them, not to mention all the critical posts you've made on other boards about deleted posts and threads, heavy-handed Mods, etc.



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There was an inconsistency in this case, and it was mine. Instead of deleting Dragon’s thread when I saw that he had edited out his original post, as is the board’s practice, I responded to the thread. I was only able to do that because Zak had quoted Dragon’s entire piece, text and photo, in his own response. I should not have done what I did. In the future, I will keep to board policy and delete all threads in which the originating post has been removed by its author. If I wish to comment on material that has been removed, I will do so through email or PM.

Over the weekend there was another instance when Steve Parker took down a piece he had posted in the Prose Spectrum and replaced it with a comment, saying something like, “This is going nowhere, so I’m taking it down.” Chris, Tere and I all responded in the thread, encouraging Steve to repost his piece. Technically, that was also a violation of board policy. I can only say that I responded in that case because Steve had replaced his piece with a comment indicating he thought his piece hadn’t received any comments because no one was interested. Since I hadn’t even read the piece and since Steve is fairly new to the board and, I thought, may not realize how slow the pace here can be, I responded to him instead of taking down the thread. I assume Chris and Tere did the same. Ultimately, Parker’s thread was deleted in the same way Dragon's was.

Sometimes threads in which the author has removed the original post remain on the board for a long time, because we do not realize the material has been deleted. Members can help us spot and remove these threads more quickly by editing the title of those threads to reflect the change. A simple “post deleted” or “post removed” would help a lot.

It’s hard to say why someone removes a piece unless they indicate why they have. Sometimes a person realizes the piece isn’t ready for critique; sometimes the piece has been picked up for publication, as happened a few times in Pat’s case. Sometimes the member decides to take the piece down because it hasn’t generated much of a response. Whatever the reason, once a piece has been removed by the author, it is an indication to other members that the piece has been withdrawn from discussion, and it will be removed from the board.

I apologize for any upset these inconsistencies in implementing board policy have caused to members. I can honestly say that in both cases the board’s actions were not intended to make anyone feel uneasy or singled out anyway. Dragon, I am sorry this incident brought back bad memories for you. I wish I had responded to your poem through PM/email. I seriously considered doing just that, because I wasn’t sure, since you had removed the piece, that any further comments on it were desired or would be welcomed. I should have trusted my instinct and contacted you privately. I’m sorry I didn’t.
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Most really good moderators do need to prune a board, we all understand that....on Erato, for example, there is always a week's notice given before doing so, so poets can save any comments they received...it is not a punishing move like this appears to be, it is a necessary board function and all who post there understand. It is not done selectively by the Moderator.

We haven't had to prune any creative work from the board yet. If the board grows, we may need to do so at some point, and we will let members know how and when that is going to happen. In the meantime though, I would advise everyone to save a copy of all critiques as they ago along. Runboard backs up all the boards every night but that doesn't mean there isn't the possibility that a day's worth of posts could be lost. More than that if Runboard itself is compromised in some way.

Pat, I'm sorry you feel deleting Dragon's thread was a punitive action. It wasn't. Nor was deleting Parker's thread. It really was business as usual. Unfortunately, I don't think members such as you were aware that this was the way originating posts in which the material had been edited out are handled. Even more unfortunate was the fact that when Tere recently made changes to the pruning guidelines, he accidentally deleted out the policy information regarding deleted material. Add to that my own infraction of board policy, and we ended up with what we have now: a perfect storm of controversy ironically set into motion by my own good intentions when I commented on Dragon's poem. I apologize to you as well for the bad memories my inconsistency in following board policy have brought back to mind.

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Kat, I don't accept your apology for commenting on my thread, just because Zak had quoted the poem and you were therefore enabled to read it again and make your comment.

I don't accept your apology because it wasn't necessary to apologize for leaving your comment, even late in the game. You have nothing to apologize for, as far as I'm concerned, in leaving your comment.

My point was that when you left your comment, it reactivated the thread. The thread was no longer dead, and should not have been rushed to deletion. The deletion policy should no longer have been applied, and should not have been rushed to BE applied. It's obvious in retrospect that that policy needs to be reconsidered, and applied a lot more slowly, with a gentler touch. As I said above, I might have been ASKED first. now that a comment HAD been made, before the thread was deleted. Imagine my feelings when it was all just gone. You bet it felt punitive, whether or not that was intended.

You know what? Mistakes happen. It's what happens NEXT that truly matters. Perception matters here, a lot.

As I posted on the thread before it was deleted, and as I emailed you directly, later, your comments on that poem—which I had removed because I was certain at that point that no one "got it" or ever cared to—your comments were the single most insightful comments on any poem of mine that I have received in probably two years. I'm now glad that I saved them off to my hard drive, because I want to re-read them, and think about them, and articulate my own thoughts about my poetry.

Your comments excited me because they understood and articulated exactly what I've been trying to do with that kind of poetry, which is a new direction for me (and not a popular one with most of my old poetry crit acquaintances). I haven't received that insightful, useful, and positive a comment on any of my poems in a very long while. You made my day.

So you can understand how shocked I was to see that all gone, all of a sudden, when I came back again to add to my response to your comments. It felt like a slap in the face, or worse. And considering that there have been threads floating around a long time, inactive, you can see WHY I felt singled out for deletion. You can WHY I pointed out the inconsistency.

Please don't quote me the board policy and rules anymore. I've heard that enough times. I don't need to hear those rules, or are they guidelines, anymore, and I don't care to. emoticon Regardless of whether or not it was a mistake, or a miscommunication, obviously the rules were not acted upon as stated, one way or another—and actions always speak louder than words. The only further comment about the rules that I want to hear, at this point, is that they will be more obvious, and more correctly applied. Yes, mistakes DO happen. And what happens NEXT is what really matters.

I only discovered the thread had been deleted when I went to add another thought in response to your fantastic comment. It had been my intent to put the poem back in, as I did so, to reactivate the thread for real, and thus be able to continue my responses to your excellent comments. I was going to put the poem back in; and I didn't get the chance to.

So you have nothing to apologize for. And neither do I.

At the same time, I doubt I'll post a poem like that here again. I don't care to be the cause for any kind of created and avoidable drama. I'm interested in the poetry, not in all this board business, which I regard as a distraction that only happened because of the aforementioned inconsistencies, and apparently also because of miscommunications. I don't care for my poems to be the cause of any similar situation in future. I'm sure that some voices would now accuse me of being the instigator of all this drama—but they would be only half-right. If I am to be accused of creating drama when speaking up when I see something unfair happen, or if I feel I'm being unfairly treated, then so be it. In future I don't want to be either a target OR an excuse to create avoidable drama, whether intentional or otherwise. So no more of my poems in that style will appear here, because frankly I don't have the time or energy for this kind of avoidable kerfluffle. It's not the end of the world, and I'm not particularly upset about it—and who needs it? Really, who needs it? And who gives a frak?

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And who gives a frak?



I sorta do, if that's ok. Now, I want to know what the style of poetry was, what the new direction is that you are experimenting with. Do you care to post it again?

With respect to "drama" - I say bring it on!! emoticon Kidding aside, without knowing the exchanges and emotional investments or flashbacks from the past, I am glad this clarification occurred. I, for one, did not know that removing the content on the origination of the thread rendered it dead and subject to deletion. It is good information to have. I am not an experienced boarder and have never bothered to read the rules <hangs head in shame>.

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Dragon, first off let me say, I’m happy my comments on your poem made your day. That kind of makes my day, if you want to know the truth. I hope, despite this controversy, those comments will prove useful to you in some way going forward. Second I want to say, I do understand why you were surprised and upset to find the thread missing. I also understand why you wrote to me about it and why you are bringing it up on the board. I get, too, why this experience gives you a feeling of déjà vu. I deeply regret all of that.

Since what is done can’t be undone, this is what I propose going forward:

1) When a member decides to edit out the original material in a thread, that member agrees that the thread will be deleted. It would be helpful and expedite thread deletion if the member also edited the title of the thread to reflect the edit: “Post deleted” or “Post removed.”

2) If another member wants to comment on a post after the author has taken it down, but before the thread itself has been deleted, that member can contact the author through email/PM.

It is impossible for other members to know when a member would welcome comments on the deleted material, despite the fact that the material was taken down, and when the removal of the material means no more feedback is desired. Therefore, as Tere has said, a post is inactive when the originating post has been deleted. I like this approach, because it puts responsibility and control into members’ hands: If you want to take material down, take it down. No explanation is needed and the thread will be deleted as soon Tere, Chris or I see it. If another member wants to respond to deleted material, they can do so directly and privately through PM/email. In this way, no admin/mod judgment calls come into play.

I realize this is not what happened in this recent incident, which is why I apologize to everyone involved and to the board in general. My actions moved us into a gray area that could have been avoided if I had not acted as I did. Tere did what we always do when the originating post has been edited out; I was the one who acted differently.

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~Respecting the charges of inconsistency and censorship my conscience is clear. My actions, not my words, have proved the point.

~Respecting a poster's post I view it as the primary responsibility of the poster's and not the board's. If the content gets edited out by the poster post gets removed. Since the edit renders nonsensical the ensuing conversation the thread gets removed.

~Respecting the present discussion, and since we are all being honest, I view it as an artificially manufactured controversy. To what end I cannot know. But here too my conscience is clear, and this irrespective of the board.

Beyond this all I can say is what I said upthread. Respecting the board's protocol I am good to go with it. I see no reason to change what has been in place since Sep. of '08, at least not yet.

On a more personal note, yesterday I was made upset enough by the charges of Pat Jones and Dragon I was shaking so hard I had to leave work early. I don't appreciate that. It is unfair. For the second time in a year both members have taken exception to the board. Why, I don't know. Why they are here if they don't like the board, and presumably me, I don't know. I do know this is a good board.

Terreson

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Just responding to something that mentioned me upthread: mostly when I delete something it is because I came back to it later and thought oh christ why did I post that bunch of crap... I haven't deleted anything here because I thought everyone was ignoring me or anything, just because I figured I'd made a mistake in posting it in the first place. I do do this from time to time, and it's no indication that I am feeling a lack of attention or anything, just that I no longer feel something is right in some way. I very often write things very spontaneously, and that doesn't always work once the feeling subsides. That's all that is.

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Thanks for the clarification, Steve. When you said something about the piece going nowhere, you meant in your own mind. I misunderstood your comment, but now I get it.
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Now, I want to know what the style of poetry was, what the new direction is that you are experimenting with. Do you care to post it again?




Shab, thanks for the interest in the poem. No, I don't think I'd care to post it here again. I don't want to go through any of that again. If you really want to look at it, I've posted it over on my Dragoncave blog, posted here. If you wanted to know more about the new style of poetry, there's more about it on my main website; the series of which this was a part is posted here.


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Thanks, Dragon. I will poke around your blog.
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quote:

Katlin wrote:

Thanks for the clarification, Steve. When you said something about the piece going nowhere, you meant in your own mind. I misunderstood your comment, but now I get it.



Might have been both actually, Kat. Sometimes my stuff has a very short decay rate, so if it doesn't get responses quick enough to nourish it then it quickly reaches zero in my head and I decide to remove it. But the problem (not that it's a problem) there is with my psychology, nothing else.

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A couple of thoughts, Steveman. First, with regards to the Prose and Poetry fora, I try to make sure every post gets some activity. If I can't post a reply it is usually because I can't get a sense for the piece and so have nothing to say. I've not discussed the matter with Chris and Kat but I suspect they operate similarly. Also, I've noticed that members tend to keeep to different schedules when visiting the board. Some stop by, or at least post, daily. Some late at night. Some first thing in the morning. Some on week days only. Some on the weekends. Others stop by or post twice a month. It is worth keeping in mind when measuring the atomic half-life of what you show us.

Of course every one has their own way when posting for comment. And every way is the right way. Chuckling here when I say this. But, statistically, I am probably the least commented on poster of poetry. I actually like that such is the case. At the very least it means no one feels they have to comment on something a Cracker site owner posts. I like the realness of that.

If so inclined, maybe give your poetry posts a little more time in which board buddies can become familiar with what you are after. Hell, man. I am still looking to walk through your objectives. Without the right orientation I can't really offer you much, right?

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Tere, it's not your problem. Don't worry about it. I'll never blame you for it.

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If anyone else is having trouble today, 31 Jan '10, connecting to the board it is not you or your pc. It seems to be a systems problem. Just be sure you have saved in a doc anything of importance.

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This is kind of important in terms of board navigation. If I am not sure how to explain the situation it is because I don't understand what happened. The problem has been solved but anyone posting on Ateliers may see a different kind of first message.

Katlin discoverd that the forum somehow lost its security status as a board members only forum. Once I had set the security status we tested the settings and they were what we wanted. This was over a year ago. But I never thought to recheck the system. Somehow the settings got changed. I don't know. Maybe Runboard made a systems change and I was not aware of it. I have noticed certain differences in Runboard lay out and such over the last month or so.

Down in the board's control panel, let's call it the boiler room, we were able to try out different setting configurations specific to Ateliers until we found the right combination. Again a test has been run. Kat went to the board as an unsigned guest. She was unable to access Ateliers. Then she signed in under a member only username. She was able to both access the forum and she was able to post. But she did get a different sort of message, to the effect that by posting she now has membership to the forum. Presumably others are likely to get the same message.

Board members interested in Ateliers please test access to it. If denied access please let me know. I am sorry for the hiccough. From now on I will retest board features periodically to make sure they are as we want them to be.

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Works fine for me, Tere.
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Thanks, Chrisfriend, for checking out the system. I wish I was a better tech. sometimes than I am a writer. Well, sometimes.

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A Note to Everyone: If you have any technical questions or technical difficulties with the board, please don't hesitate to contact Runboard Support for help. The support staff are easy to work with. They respond quickly and are friendly and eager to help:

http://www.runboard.com/bakheva

 
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FYI and adding to what Katfriend says. A $10 a year purchase of premium status and any technical help question you have gets priority. Plus you are free of ad. banners all across Runboard. I've purchased as much for both myself and for the board. It is why you are not bothered with pesky banners here. And my questions have always been answered within the day. Even a tightwad like me is happy with the price and what I get in return.

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Served up as a reminder, PII (personally identifying information) posted without a member's permission is not an okay thing to do on the board.

Terreson

Coming back to the post after a day of thinking on it. When I started the board I vowed board business would be kept as transparent as both possible and practicable. It is precisely why Delectable Mnts does not have a hidden forum intended for mods and admins only. The board's one hidden forum serves as an archive for unacceptable posts for if and when Runboard has questions about us.

A specific article of the board's protocol states this:

~Delectable Mnts does have one particular by-law. Members do not suffer cyber-stalking, what can include personally identifying information (PII) posted to embarrass or compromise a member or the repeated verbal harassment.

Last night, and for reasons I cannot know, Patricia Jones identified the employer for whom I work. We were once close friends and so she would know such things shared in trust. She even knows why the board has included such an article. I am satisfied the post was deliberate. Last night, soon after discovering the post giving PII, she was denied posting-access to Delectable Mnts. As a Runboard member she can read the proceedings here only. I have archived the post in the Bad News Box forum. It is saved for Runboard's review.

I feel very sad today having had to deny access to an old friend. This is the first time I've had to use the function and it hurts. But I am clear on the decision. No member of this board, including me, suffers harrassment, which includes 'outing' against that member's wishes. What happens elsewhere, and it is always gratuitous, will have to happen elsewhere. Not here.

Terreson

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This is truly a sad turn of events.
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I agree, Shabfriend. There is not much sense I can make of it. Except to say PII is is an issue I take quite seriously. This board will not trade in secrets shared and then betrayed.

Tere

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As I expected would happen, last night Dragon posted on the board personal information about me he could have only gotten from Patricia Jones. It was also and clearly deliberate, even if motive is unclear. Post has been archived and Dragon's posting access has been removed.

Go figure. My two oldest on line friends. People I've known for ten years. Ain't that the !@#$.

Tere
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Copying these directions from Shab on how to use color over here where they will be easier to find in the future:

here is how I have done color:

1. hit "color" from the buttons above
2. it prompts me to give a text, I let it sit empty and hit ok.
3. it gives me a chart and I pick the color from the chart
4. it will provide a code, that looks like this: [col=X][/col] (X varies depending on the color) and is inserted at the end of the typed text
5. put the text to be colored between the two parts of the code - i.e., between [col=x] and [/col]

viola, you have a colored text.

-s

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Very odd. I cannot explain it. A few minutes ago I noticed that the word, !@#$, in my immediately preceding post showed ****s. I checked profanity filter settings for both the board and for my personal account. They both seemed okay but I played with them anyway, switching them on and off. Now the word is back. I have no explanation for it, but all might want to check their settings.

Tere

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Dragon emailed me to request that all of his original poetry, prose and artwork be removed from the board. We will do that this week, but I wanted everyone to know why they will start to see some threads disappear. Anyone who wants to continue to read and follow Dragon's work can do so at the links he provided upthread.

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